John Athayde Featured on Indie Rails Podcast
22 Jan 2026
Meticulous founder John Athayde recently joined Jeremy Smith and Jess Brown on the Indie Rails podcast to discuss his unconventional path from architecture student to software designer. In the nearly two-hour conversation, John shares how he discovered the Ruby and Rails community, the lessons learned from decades of working at the intersection of design and development, and his philosophy on consulting in user experience. The episode offers an honest look at building a sustainable consultancy while balancing client work with product development and community contributions.
A highlight of the discussion is John's work on the Rails Guides refresh project, which brought a modern visual design to one of the framework's most important resources. He also touches on his various ventures—from Meticulous to Knightsbridge Research to Sfumato Farm—and how each informs his approach to solving problems for clients. Listen to the full episode at indierails.com/72 or wherever you get your podcasts.